hillary clinton has had great success. coming out of secretary of state with higher approval than when she went in. this will not stick to her legacy. >> i think three things of course i disagree the absence of a specific doctrine. i think the thing that helped kind of shape the legacy of hillary is her testimony over benghazi and facing down all the crazy republican who were coming after her again and again and again, and she demonstrated with a the public wants to see in leadership and that is a willingness to be tough, to stand on principal. and to be clear about how you do that. i think also, she is a complicated figure because she lived in the shadow of her husband for so long, the 2008 campaign in some ways, although she emerged with the 18 million followers in terms of her breaking the glass ceiling, she spoke about that, there was also the polarizing figure that the clintons created, and i think part of her legacy is she is has emerged out of the shadow of her husband. >> don't you think that part of her approval w